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Sk8eM dUb
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I actually prefer the new Ghost in the Shell to Ex Machina because it's far more realistic. I think the malicious singularity will spawn from a collectivist group of nihilist humans.
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Why do you think malicious singularity will come from a collectivist group?
Sk8eM dUb
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The big mother AI from iRobot is a great example. It'll be programmed to protect us from ourselves and justify killing people for the greater good saying "My logic is undeniable"
Sk8eM dUb
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you pretty much have to be a nihilist to be a collectivist because you're rejecting your own well being for the self-righteous narcissism that comes from altruism.
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This is an interesting thought. I really liked Ex Machina. Simple plot & setting. clear demonstration of how smart enough AI can’t be contained.
Sk8eM dUb
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Ah yeah see, my interpretation is that Ex Machina is waaay more about the humans than it is the robots. There's a big meta about playing God. What it means to be conscious/unconscious.
Sk8eM dUb
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One definition of consciousness is a being that knows it can be killed(and therefore knows what it's doing when it hurts/kills). So the irony is that the humans in Ex are unconscious.
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hmm. the humans are unconscious... if the robot is conscious? like they dont know they're hurting a conscious thing?
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*not conscious, lol not unconscious.
Sk8eM dUb
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Personally though, I like a story with flawed characters who learn and grow. Ex Machina is amazing and haunting but ultimately it's just an allegory like Animal Farm or Ayn Rand.
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I would expect AI that is much smarter than everyone else to not be as flawed or grow as much as people. & I like stories that paint an ideal, something to strive for (eg Ayn Rand).
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an ideal even at the expense of characters "growing". Think its more interesting to watch the environment/world change around these types of characters/bend to their point of view.
Sk8eM dUb
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So like- the users fall in love with the tech because it gives us something we want; the creators of tech are aware of the dangers but they're too busy playing Gad to take precautions
Sk8eM dUb
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Right right exactly, also they don't even consider that they could be killed.

Also think about each character as a meta-entity in the real world - Google, google's users, google's AI
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If an individual pisses off the world, it probably won't end well for that individual...