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John_Doe
Well, there's lots of data on evolution, natural selection, and the propagation of genetic mutations in nature. The fossil record is an excellent way to see the process visually.
John_Doe
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Like Pilt Down man? That data, even if it did show that, which it doesn't, can be faked. There is huge political and other motivation to do so, that is why I am very sceptical.
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What is the huge political motivation for paying off thousands of people across several centuries to fake scientific data and research?
John_Doe
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Atheism can't exist without evolution. Atheism is needed to justify absolute state control of its subjects. Look at the history of the persecution of religion by the Soviets.
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And why is atheism needed to justify absolute state control of subjects? Religion has a long a brutal history of being used as a tool to enforce absolute control over people.
Sk8eM dUb
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Atheism works better - there's no higher ideal that the state is supposed to be subordinate to. So the State can replace God entirely. More efficient than being merely a middleman.
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The State replaces God? I don't think you understand atheism.
Sk8eM dUb
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What do you think Big Brother is?? All knowing, all seeing, all powerful, the arbiter of Truth... If that's not a replacement for God then we have different definitions.
Sk8eM dUb
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I don't think you understand human beings
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Its Religion that has been abused for propaganda. Its books and authorities that abuse the people. The bible is a hoax that was invented after Religion to control the sheeps.
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Look at the history of persecution of anyone who disagreed with them by almost every established religion ever... "Atheism can't exist without evolution"... Why the hell not?
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And why is atheism needed to justify absolute state control of subjects? Religion has a long a brutal history of being used as a tool to enforce absolute control over people.
Sk8eM dUb
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I think it's a lot like biased journalism. Geology is a fun example - any conclusion that looked like a catastrophic worldwide flood was flatly dismissed because, you know why.
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what does teaching evolution gain anyone?!
Sk8eM dUb
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Nihilists are easier to control
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this is as vague as justifications for flat earth.
Sk8eM dUb
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There's a reason, for example, that the Rebels in Star Wars are bonded together by faith in the Force. John Paul II went to Poland in '79 and it toppled the USSR. Tyrants hate God.
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good examples though
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meh, less familiar with public opinion manipulations. I'll take your word for it.
John_Doe
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Not about teaching. It can be taught like any theory. It is the absolute persecution of anybody questioning it that I have a problem with.
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thats what you get with socialized scientific funding & public schools. if both were private we'd have greater diversity & choice.