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John_Doe
Tell that to Australia. http://fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/
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John_Doe
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Tell that to France.
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I'm good in France with a homicide rate per inhabitants 6 times lower than the US. I would say banning gun is working here, at least.
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This is extremely shortsighted. How easily you forget history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France
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I didn't forget, I actually learnt that in school. The thing is our weaponry tech was really inferior at the time. If they gave a weapon to everyone, we would have lost anyway.
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Your country was taken and then given back by those with guns. Gun control has nothing to with saving lives, it has to with who has guns and who doesn’t. It’s about control
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I don't mind trained military to have guns. You have to be delusional to think civilians with handguns can control any army armed with tanks, drones, etc. Civilians never have control.
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Alright, seems fair. Also most of the time when someone wants to protect themselves from police enforcement, the police shoots first. Govt doesn't even need guns to control anyway
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yeah. argument is there but language is a bit strong. true gov controls people by demanding respect (essentially). guns are usually a last resort of force. (after letters, courts...)
John_Doe
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Tell that to the Afghans who kicked ass.
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So you don’t mind over 400,000 innocent civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan since the US invasion? You only care about the deaths sensationalized by mainstream media?
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I care about the deaths that could have been easily avoided. But what's your take on this, should we demilitarize the US ? Or train every iraqi, even children ?
Barricade
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Demilitarize the US is a great idea. After all, the 2nd ammendment protects your land and there's no need to "democratize" foreign countries.
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Agree. US isn't a democracy itself, so it can't install one the first place. US installs banana republics under the guise of "democracy".
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They all could have been easily avoided by non-intervension in the first place. If only the American people only had the ability to see through the propaganda and stop fascism.
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West screwed up. We waste our time taking care of idiots who have failed to form a functioning civilization after thousands of year.
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love this image
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"American people" don't choose what war to participate in, even if they see through the propaganda, and their guns won't deter the govt from going. Like the Vietnam war...
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Agree. But guns I homes deters them from declaring war on or own people. Notice the more gun control the more militarized the police become.
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I'm sorry but this is not true. In France only the military and special forces carry loaded guns and gendarmes doesn't have any. There are just more men since recent events.
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Yeah hardly looks like military... https://tinyurl.com/ybl6vg4z
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Looks like a parade uniform to me.
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? This is only for the show.. No policeman walks with this in the street, again, see my previous comment.
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Is this just for show too?
https://static.ladepeche.fr/content/media/image/large/2017/10/18/20171019092126096-0.jpg
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Absolutely not, this is the RAID units, the French SWAT. There's a very low chance to see them in real life. They are only 380 too.. They don't enforce anything.
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And you believe you are safer country? Than where? https://tinyurl.com/o28a2sf
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Again totally in denial about the fact that France was lost as a country to Germany before being restored by people with guns. Gun control is more about control than anything.
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Our entire army was wiped out by the blitzkrieg in 6 weeks. It has way more to do with our inferior technological progress at the time than giving guns to civilians or not.
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Your just proving my point. Imagine if not just the military but all of the people were armed with modern weaponry.
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Wouldn't stand a chance against tanks and planes. Civilians wouldn't be as coordinated as the military too. They went from Poland to Moscow and everyone had a gun there
Barricade
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The USA lost againts Vietnamese farmers.
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North Vietnam had a lots of military. The US did the most damage by killing 2 million civilians and 600k soldiers. They did not lose the battles at all, it was just unnecessary.
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fascism? Let me guess, you have no idea wtf this word even means.
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I do, but why do you think I don't?
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The way you use it. Context.
John_Doe
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Just dont draw offensive cartoons. Doesn't seem like gun control helps in that case.
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It's not perfect but it helps. I mean we don't have school shooting drills here
John_Doe
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The drills are part of the propaganda. Don't let that fool you. Fact is if someone wants to do a mass shooting they can. Gun control isnt stopping them.
John_Doe
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Just too bad it only improved 8 years after the ban. Low crime before low crime after. Big surprize.
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You must not even be from America if you spell surprise with a Z. LOL. Or is that you Trump? LOL
John_Doe
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Thank you for turning to personal attacks. I rest my case.
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