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Sk8eM dUb
replied 2263d
There's a big market for stability. Why do you think half of the third world is rushing the borders of Europe and America? Do you live in Somalia?
Hurensohn
replied 2263d
stability!=state. third world rushing to europe because of free tax money. european rulers needs instability to increase there power.
more instability>more rules > more power >more tax
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2263d
If there are no checks on state power(like decent elections, separated branches of government, free speech protected with government force, literate population etc.) you have tyranny.
Hurensohn
replied 2262d
government calls the "wrong" opinion hate speech and arrest you. they do not want literate people. they want order followers. Educated people could question the necessity of rulership
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2262d
Right that's why you have to have a government that naturally limits itself. You don't want anarchy because whatever gangster is in charge will not limit him/herself. That's tyranny.
Hurensohn
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Goverments are the biggest gangsters in town. Gangsters are not the problem, a free society can keep them in check. People who want to be ruled and legitimize rulership are the problem
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2261d
Define "free society".
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Hurensohn
replied 2261d
People who can think for themselves and do not need a king/president to tell them what to think/do. Rules without rulers. Like crypto. I think people who want to be ruled prefer BSV ;)
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2260d
And if Roger or Aumary do something you don't like with ABC what will you do?
Hurensohn
replied 2259d
bitcoin is not just a currency.it will overcome the religion of 'Belief in government'.if ABC becomes corrupt, there will likely be a fork.I'll always follow the libertarian fork
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2259d
So you believe in the government of ABC but Bitcoin has a magical power that makes people not believe in government? I'm very confused by your statements.
Hurensohn
replied 2259d
I don't have to believe in anyone.I can dump my coins anytime or switch to another chain. Can you dump your government anytime?You cant even choose your government
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2257d
There's no such thing as free speech or the right to defend yourself in an anarchy - only power. If you want no government whatsoever you want tyranny.
Hurensohn
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No rulers does not mean no rules. If we stop obeying the mafia, the mafia will disappear. However, if you are so obsessed with being ruled, you can also be governed voluntarily
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2254d
Hahah nooo, if you stop obeying the mafia - they KILL you.
Hurensohn
replied 2254d
Not if you defend yourself and help your neighbor, if he is attacked by mafia instead of helping the mafia if he becomes its target
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2254d
How many neighbors is too many neighbors to organize this defense with? What you're describing sounds a whole lot like a government and police.
Hurensohn
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Sk8eM dUb
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That's the irony of course. People fleeing instability aren't going to get it. But the places they come from are not stateless. Those are places that have no checks on state power.