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idk it might. we'll have to see. dont feel strongly either way. if corruption is kept in check & the system works well & maintains freedom I'm cool with it.
Sk8eM dUb
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A stateless money would help! Really though, you gotta have a populace that recognizes and highly values inalienable individual rights and the corresponding responsibilities.
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yes I think this is clear from many societies around the world, but I dont like relying on it (bc its equivalent to class consciousness in communism).
Sk8eM dUb
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Nope that doesn't work because (the religious belief of) class consciousness values the group higher than individuals. Conversely, in Christianity you have a name that only God knows.
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"highly values inalienable individual rights" : free market :: class consciousness : communism
Sk8eM dUb
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The problem is that the only mechanism to keep that devotion to "good" that's worked so far has been devotion to a higher power(that's explicitly not interested in political power).
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That is mostly an assumption. Even societies without a higher power have a working morality. Eve animals seem to have basic morals. orals likely come before belief in a higher power.
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yeah... interesting to see what happens in more atheistic countries (EU). Eastern countries (eg Japan?) dont always have a god. but do have collectivist/in group leanings.
Sk8eM dUb
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Idiot "economists" who try to use Japan as an example of how to do things IGNORE the fact that it's a mono-ethnic state with it's border completely surrounded by a big beautiful wall.
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if your hypothesis about religion is true, then cultures with less religion should be less cohesive/trusting/successful. idk if Japan is a good example, just what came to mind.
Sk8eM dUb
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Also, currently in Shinto religion the gods are higher than the emperor. That was the huge gift that WWII gave them. Losing that war proved that no human is above the gods.
Sk8eM dUb
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Basically you need to have a reason to TRUST your neighbor for capitalism to work. In Japan that reason is ethnic. In America it's JESUS.
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haven't dug into it, but found quickly
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I do not think people are honest because they are christian. They’re honest because they have a reputation irl or online. Ebay ex, sellers must to have reputations near 100%.
Sk8eM dUb
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Yeah, Japan has a strong social contract, probably due to their public school system(which are basically military schools) and a thousand years history of rice farming.