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2310d · Bitcoin Cash
who is holding it back? it is actively being worked on
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Maybe. Every time I've asked about it I've just had CashShuffle shoved at me. CashShuffle isn't fungibility. It's decentralized mixing. Nothing special about it.
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I'd consider it 'good enough', protocol layer fungibility would make global adoption too difficult imo
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Traditional mixing services are better than CashShuffle imo

Which isn't really a good thing. Protocol layer fungibility is a must have.

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Two of these criticisms assume low volume, which liquidity bots and better wallet integration fixes. You can do arbitrary amounts when the pool you shuffle with is large.
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the difference is that it's trustless, which makes it viable for automatic integration into your wallet software. drawbacks aren't really an issue in that case
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Uh, drawbacks are drawbacks. CashShuffle is less functional than a traditional mixer with no improvement in fungibility and obfuscation. Trustless doesn't make those issues go away.
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I'd argue it does, by automatically shuffling your wallet we will have really big pools and the same amount of BCH issue wouldn't be problematic either if enough people participate
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Completely agree. I imagine pools with hundreds of shufflers, and many users running bots to automatically shuffle UTXOs in the background. All with zero trust in a third party.
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Bottom line is CashShuffle is not sufficient for fungibility and obfuscation in my opinion. Traditional mixers like coinmix.to are far more flexible and practical for the layman.
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If you need to shuffle EXACTLY 0.10 BCH and don't mind waiting hours, encountering bugs with alpha software i suppose it's fine. To me, it's only less crappy than LN.
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the drawbacks sound annoying when you are doing shuffling as an explicit action, but they are irrelevant if your wallet does it in the background without your participation
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It has the ease of use and bugs of Lightning Network, and the transaction speed of 10 sat/byte BTC tx's in December.
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Automatic shuffling isn't implemented in CashShuffle. It all is done manually in the plugin tab in Electron Cash. Aside from fixed amounts, high minimums etc. there are numerous issues
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it can be added as a plugin is what is my point. the layman wouldn't have to understand anything, as it can be fully automated, which is only possible because it is trustless
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You can't automate shuffling of all coins. CashShuffle does not allow you to use custom amounts. Only fixed presets. Doing otherwise breaks anonymity.
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Plus, they'd need to understand plugins. Which most actual laymans don't. Operation of the wallet is advanced enough.