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RevKellyn
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But Capitalists are involved, they control the government. Why else would the government not tax the Capitalists? And Communists are being killed in the name of Capitalism.
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Its not really this hard.
Gov. should have no or very minimal power over individuals.
RevKellyn
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I agree, the only thing governments should be doing is providing essential services to the public like universal healthcare. It should not be used as a system of control.
EnigoMontoya
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The government shouldn't be used as a system of control, so it should control the healthcare system. Flawless logic.
RevKellyn
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Universal Healthcare isn't about controlling the healthcare system. It's about providing healthcare to everyone who needs it and makes sure the workers in it get properly compensated.
EnigoMontoya
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How do you do that without controlling the means to provide healthcare? Aka enslaving doctors and nurses.
RevKellyn
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You don't control them, doctors and nurses provide the healthcare because they love medicine. The government just pays them to reward them for their valuable labor which is a right.
EnigoMontoya
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Good one.
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And remember that government is meant to be elected by the people, meaning they should do the policies they promote during elections, which is why we elect them & not to serve the rich
RevKellyn
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Not to mention having fair voting systems and having direct democracy on most issues would be good to have as well.
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Of course
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yeah, we all agree gov shouldn't have so much, or any, power. yet the only way you propose for how capitalists attack communism is through the government, which no one here supports.
RevKellyn
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Okay, well here's another one for you. Capitalist businesses can choose not to trade with Communist ones particularly in regards to critical resources like food and they sponsor coups.
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cartels do not survive in free markets. if some choose not to provide food others will.
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everyone chooses who to trade with everyday. you choose food everyday (discriminating against those you do not buy from)
RevKellyn
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Why does the government (a centralized linchpin) get do award contracts for all bananas in the country? Would be different if each farm chose who to do business with.
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I see it as more of a failure of the centralization of power in e.g. Honduras. "government's having ... award them a monopoly contract for the Honduran banana"
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at least this is a more direct link.
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r u another socialist? i have been meeting alot of them here on memo lately?
RevKellyn
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Yes, I consider myself a Market Socialist which I believe is the most palatable form of Socialism right now. Basically a Co-op and Solopreneur based economy.