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If there are no consequences for not paying then it seems the concept of taxation loses its meaning.
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If people are paying taxes without threat of jail time, in Canada at least, then it shows taxation is not theft, at least outside the US. I am starting to think the IRS is absurd.
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What is your opinion? What should be the consequences for not paying taxes?
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The British learned how wrong it is to jail people for any kind of debts long ago. I guess the US left the British system though and went to enforcing taxation with jail time.
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They phone you and send you strongly worded letter asking for their money. Like any bill collector. I suspect British Commknwealth nations all do this.
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"HMRC criminal investigation officers have wide-ranging powers of arrest, entry, search and detention."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Revenue_and_Customs#Powers_of_officers
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Looks like they go after smugglers. What is your point?
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"department of the UK Government responsible for the collection of taxes"
This guy was executed for tax evasion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Harding_(forger)
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This link also doesn't work. I am really doubting this one.
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You really can't figure out where this link goes?
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Okay I followed the link. It makes my point for me. Britain has a bad history with debtors jail. They got rid of people being jailed for debts.
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Lol. People get jailed for tax evasion today, and in the past even executed. Your point is void. Read the articles.
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So as I said. People are not jailed for it everywhere. Lots of times it takes extreme circumstances. That said you are morally obligated to pay taxes if you benefit from them.
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I benefit from maybe 10% of the activities that my taxes fund. So I'm only obligated to pay those 10%? How about compensation for the 90% of tax activities that make my life worse?
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You are not evaluating your benefits properly. The benefits that others receive directly do affect you indirectly. Living in a stable and prosperous area is a benefit.
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I read one of them. Like I said though. I only suspected it of other Commonwealth nations.
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Well, if taxes are voluntary, they're not really taxes, are they? I suspect there are state-enforced consequences though, like being barred from starting a company.
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Why would their voluntary nature make them no longer taxes? The definition of taxation does not require them to not be voluntary.
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"A failure to pay, along with evasion of or resistance to taxation, is punishable by law."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax
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I never said they were not mandatory. I just said they dont put you in jail for not paying. I know this for Canada. I suspect it for the British Commonwealth.
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"Convicted for tax evasion, he was sentenced in November 1990 to nine months in jail."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Davenport_(fraudster)#Gatecrasher_Balls
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The link doesn't work. What country is he from? My uncle owes 2 million in unpaid taxes. No jail.
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They stop giving you your GST returns, and other tax returns, and count that as payments toward your debt. It also messes with your credit rating. Either way they are still taxes.