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One important property of Bitcoin is that the network capacity should far exceed what is easily achievable by few users attempting to saturate the system.
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Otherwise a few users can crowd out others, and your chain is back to Blockstream/Core's concept of a saturated high-fee coin, and you are back to square one.
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Nikamoto
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I'm not sure to understand. You dislike sv because one user can fill alone a 100Mb block ?
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Not "fill a 100MB block", but use up 100% of the network's current capacity. That's the difference.

There are many other reasons I don't put my trust in the SV network.
Nikamoto
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If you have a link where there is a list of these reason that would be cool. I'm willing to change my mind (I'm pro SV coz of Metanet) if these reasons aren't "Craig is a scammer"
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I'm not here to convince you, I wish you the best of luck on SV and Metanet.
I'm looking for documentation / whitepaper on Metanet, couldn't find anything,
Nikamoto
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Seems to be just an idea for now (I believe some are writing their vision for that project on honest.cash or whatever). And maybe you are looking for unwritter slack room
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No, I'm not looking for unwriter's slack room, thanks.
I'll wait until something proper is published about Metanet - without that it has no hope of success.
Nikamoto
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How is it easier to use 100% network capacity in BSV than bch ? You can spam bch with random txs the same way you would do 100Kb op return tx, you'll pay the same amount of fees
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No you can't spam it as easily with large data transactions, unless you are a high-powered miner.
Nikamoto
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But I agree you can't easily do 100Kb txs
Nikamoto
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What's the difference between a 100kb tx and 500 txs of 200b ?
Maybe it's a bit harder because you need to code to do 500txs quickly but I think it's the same
SuperHacker
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Non-OP_RETURN scripts cost more CPU cycles and memory, that's the main difference. After network stress succeed, we need to stress test other hardwares, i.e. CPU, memory, bus and etc.
Nikamoto
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You mean it's harder to build them ? You can spend a week building them and spamming the network a single day
Or do you mean the validation ?
SuperHacker
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Ability to validate huge amount of transactions are very IMPORTANT for a world currency system, even thought these are standrand transactions.
Nikamoto
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I agree but that's not work that the spammer has to do, right ?
(It was about BSV is easier to spam than bch)
Hopefully software will improve and validation won't be an issue anymore !
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Software will improve.

BCH can focus on the primary use case of cash, while BSV needs to attend to that + file storage plus whatever Metanet requires.
hv_
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BCH is moar about casino and trustless tokens / ICOs + changing and forking - so no future.
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Keep believing.
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Let's see who wins the race, my money is on Bitcoin Cash BCH ;-)
SuperHacker
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Validation
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Huge OP_RETURN data transactions are not standard on BCH and do not propagate easily, hence one would have to approach a miner to help mine them.
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That's part of the "harder", but my original point was also that because it's non-standard, there aren't any apps that can just do that in the hands of script kiddies.
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And swiping a button 1400 times sounds a lot easier than swiping it 500,000 (although of course, one could outsource it to a click farm if determined).

I'm not saying it's impossible.
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Just that it's harder in terms of effort needed.
Nikamoto
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You can program your computer to sign them all and he'll do that in few minutes (or more)
I agree swiping 1400 is ridiculous but you can do without that. As you said it's just for fun
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Ok, feel free to try that on Bitcoin Cash BCH.
I think you may find it harder / costlier than you imagine.
Nikamoto
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There are doing that for stress test I believe, they have programs and we get huge blocks
But maybe you're right and it's hard to propagate lot of small txs instead of few big ones
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BU's Gigabit Testnet Initiative will aim to show 1000tx/s on BU client soon.

Previous stress tests by "Satoshi Shotgun" did highlight bottlenecks in BCH, many have seen improvements.