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replied 2280d
Even if every point were refuted flat earthers would find more evidence & we’d get nowhere.
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replied 2280d
My 2 cents... stop believing everything you think you know is “real”. I think we live in a rational/ irrational construct. It could be both, or none all at the same time.
replied 2280d
umm... ok. thanks? any specifics? “rational/irrational construct” is very vague. & why should I blindly accept whatever you think is real (whatever that is)?
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I actually think flat earth theories are fun to explore deeply. These theories pose some valid questions and shouldn’t be dismissed just bc most can’t get beyond GROUPTHINK.
replied 2275d
flat earth theories are not being dismissed because of accusations of group think on either side. they're dismissed because they hypothesize things that are not observed.
replied 2274d
Reading flat earth, hollow earth, holofractal theories etc. expand awareness in our quest for truth. Theories aren’t necessarily truths. Most theories we have today aren’t truths.
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replied 2270d
I would hope by considering such theories people would become more critical / better able to reason with data.
replied 2280d
Not asking you to blindly accept this. Try Rudolf Steiner: An Outline of Esoteric Science. It will open your eyes to a whole new theory that is just as plausible as anything else.
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Going to be honest though, dont have high hopes. These spirit things will become experimentally testable in time. Everything else has.
replied 2274d
There are many observable truths outlined in the book mentioned. What makes a living thing “alive”? As soon as you die you begin to decompose. What makes you compose?
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replied 2275d
thanks for the book. reading through wiki of Anthroposophy is not encouraging though.
replied 2274d
Yeah Wikipedia will never get you there for any objective reality. Why not explore the source directly?
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replied 2272d
there are too many things to read :(
replied 2271d
There are a lot of perspectives. Just remember not to fall for the fallacy from authority, or fallacy of majority. Just because MOST believe one reality doesn’t make it truth.
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replied 2270d
Very similar to scientific consensus. “It is a fallacy to claim something is true because of scientific consensus. The claim is not that scientific consensus is true
replied 2270d
but that it is probable because of the supporting evidence amassed by those knowledgeable in the field and assessed by their piers. Very different.”
replied 2270d
I would add evidence that people can test. not necessarily just "those knowledgeable in the field"
replied 2270d
What we experience is not called reality because most people believe it. Its called reality because repeatable experiments collect data that describes (ie predicts) the world.
replied 2270d
Humans inability to photosynthesize is reality, not because we voted & chose that as our reality but because there is evidence that can be repeated that supports this view of reality
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(ie lacking proteins that plants use to photosynthesize, people starving to death in the sunlight, etc.)
replied 2274d
It’s important to realize humans perception of reality is very limited. Plant medicines offer even more perspective in our quest for truth.
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replied 2274d
Plants are the source of health & happyness. Fresh fruits are my fuel. Marihuana opened my heart. DMT made me consciouss. Garlic is my antibiotic. Mother nature has all the knowledge.
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replied 2274d
From sound in our ears, to light in our eyes, to taste on our tongue, to touch on our nerves; everything we perceive is frequency. How to perceive more bandwidth?
replied 2274d
What?? :)
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Everything we perceive is frequency. Think about it. Electrical impulses being fed into our sensory perception. Only 5 senses. What other senses are we not perceiving?
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As you say that it reminds me of my last LSD trip. I was in a dark room with little light looking at my hand which had waves around it. And thinking:...
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...that the ankles of my body are actually similar to these of robots and I could make half of my hand disappear with my thoughts that scared me. Did you ever take LSD?
replied 2271d
depends what you think reality is. if you assume every hallucination is reality then yeah our perception is limited.
replied 2271d
“Hallucination” is a word used by people who are afraid to test the boundaries of perception. Plant medicines should not be discounted so easily.
replied 2270d
“A hallucination is a perception in the absence of external stimulus that has qualities of real perception.” Also includes things that that cannot be reliably repeated & tested.
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If you throw out objectivity (ie repeatably testable), reality can be whatever you want it be (eg inedia). undermining the concept of reality.


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