Bitcoin is not anti-nationalist. Convince me otherwise.
https://nakamotostudies.org/ read some Satoshi... The
#1 goal of Bitcoin was to strip power over money from governments and give it to the people of the world to govern as a whole.
If a government has less control over it's people(via various FIAT instruments) it makes that Nation STRONGER not weaker.
Only in comparison to other nations (which is stupid). To strip powers from an organizational body fundamentally weakens it.
FED banks/fiat money are systems of control OVER Nations, they are anti-national. If Bitcoin replaced that system it'd give the people of various Nations control over their governments
Bitcoin does not give people control over governments. Im not sure how you see that it does. By using Bitcoin I have no greater say over what decisions any government makes.
If you take away the slave masters whip does the slave have more personal sovereignty or less?
As far as purpose - ignoring execution - how are FED banks/fiat systems any different than Bitcoin. They are a means of recording value across global economy. So yes, anti-national.
The proper place for the government is to be UNDER the Nation. The entire concept of the US constitution is to attempt to keep the government under the control of the Nation.
Call it whatever you want... When the people of a nation collectively organize and make decisions, its a government. Bitcoin takes power away from governments.
No way dude, uncensorable money/communication empowers people to better collectively organize and make decisions. How this is not self evident is beyond me.
It may empower better decision making, but it certainly limits the powers of government...
You are confusing collective behavior with government. Even then, bitcoin only levels playing field between nations.
Bitcoin Cash is you being your own bank.
Government relies on fiat (gov decree) and inflation to exist. BCH eliminates these as possibilities:
Uncontrollable and uncensorable.
Have you listened to even a single word the Orange One has said in the subject? All he wants is a level playing field.
Isn't government when there's a monopoly on the use of force and people choose things for other people without regard for their consent?
Exactly, that would be the goal. Why do think the US elected a leader who's signature catch phrase is "YOU'RE FIRED"? Our Nation wants to fundamentally weaken the organizational body,
I see that as a net positive. To strip monetary power from politicians.
A government and a Nation are two different completely different things.
You can still be a conservative and have Republican ideals, but if you like Bitcoin, please admit to yourself you are not a nationalist when it comes to the economy / monetary system.
I'd say the same for socialist statists that support bitcoin. How do they propose to excise exorbitant taxes so the can redistribute wealth when bitcoin is designed to be uncensorable?
Using violence.
Yeah, that's how they do it now, but they can seize your physical cash or bank account. I guess they can beat you to give up your key.
Otherwise, imho, you don't get it. You're just here for the "cool new technology", and don't see the big picture.
nationalists are just racists with a flag.
fantastic argument, I surrender to your clearly superior intellect
Not the only one that thinks this.
The logic error is in thinking that a single abusive prison guard necessarily means that all prison guards are inherently bad. That's the same collectivist thinking as a racist.
Many prison guards are inherently bad. If they had different character, they probably wouldn't do that job.
I'm not disputing that. That's not a good reason to eliminate prisons. The proper question seems to be - how do we collectively hire good/moral/fair/humane prison guards?
Sure is not the best reason to eliminate prisions, but prisions needs to be eliiminated.
True. Also, a larger prison population hurts the economy.
Keeping prisons is one of the few legit functions of government.
Irrelevant to the discussion. We're talking about how to morally deal with people who refuse to conform to the larger societies agreed upon rules. It's not as simple as *do nothing*.
Except this is like saying, that just because one virus is bad doesnt mean that all diseases are bad. Prisions system are bad, and prision guards are inheritly bad.
Also...
Einstein was a socialist and may have plagiarized most of his major theories. Another impotent appeal to authority. Get off my lawn, weakling.
No socialist government or country are anti-nationalist. Look at the USSR how nationalist they were... Which government advertise against nationalism?
You can always find excuses and disqualify people... that desnt mean you are right.
Correct. It also doesn't mean I'm wrong. That's why it's fallacious. Eintstein saying THAT nationalism is bad says nothing about WHY it's bad. His views on socialism say a lot more.
I think the point of the referenced experiment was that "guarding prisons" was inherently bad, not the guards themselves.
I mean that's like saying murder is evil, not the murderers themselves. Semantic spin.
There is a galaxy in that spin; look closer.
A galaxy of fallacious reasoning? Please explain yourself.
A galaxy between an evil person and an evil act. I wish to make this distinction.
Roger was imprisoned and psychologically abused by individuals he perceived to be the arm of a nation. In truth, those people had no interest in the well-being of the USA.
I don't practice Ver's religion.
Practice einstein...
People pushing each other down trying to climb a wall instead of helping each other up to climb the wall together. The world in a nutshell.
Xenophobia, more than racism...
Bitcoin is not so much anti-nationalist as it promotes free trade between citizens of countries. Not necessarily against government, but removing them in terms of allowing ppl to trade
Idk what Bitcoin can do to end tariffs though. National borders don't exist as a mechanism of a money system. It'll weaken government buearocracy but not nation states.
The purpose of Trump's trade war is to get back to free trade. American companies can't sell products past Chinese tariffs which means the companies move there to access that market.
How this double standard got so intrenched is beyond me(probably 60 years of propaganda). The new definition of "fair trade" seems to be "it's unfair if America is rich".
There's this socialist kind of sentiment that assumes it's a good thing for the poorer countries to be subsidized by the richer ones. Imo it has the same effect as perpetual welfare.
Bitcoin isn't nationalist or anti-nationalist. It's Bitcoin.
End of story.
I agree that it's apolitical. But the thing it replaces IS very political, tyrannical even.
