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Sk8eM dUb
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Which is why it's confusing to see this idealistic, almost orthodox anarchism posted up on bitcoin.com. It has very little to do with crypto currencey imo.
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meh, some people see odd connections between things (taoism, bitcoin). wouldn't read too much into it.
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I see anarchy principles as fundamental to bitcoin. starting with the genesis block. "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"
Sk8eM dUb
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Free market monetary policy may be fundamental for some kinds of anarchy, but not the other way around. Eg. the early USA - not an anarchy by any means. Constitutional republic.
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Yes there was a gov but if it didn’t involve itself with most anything it is functionally not there.
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you could consider small slices of the market & call them anarchy (well more anarchic than now). eg. Schooling was do whatever you want. biz was less restricted with less recourse.
Sk8eM dUb
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This is why you gotsta know philosophy! This Hegelian synthesis vortex of ever increasing confusion of language(as in the SJW queer scene) is the same end-goal fetishized by anarchists
Sk8eM dUb
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By diversity maximalism I mean hyper-individualism, which is the inevitable end to ever increasing diversity. Basically a society where no one has anything in common with anyone else.
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interesting you so increasing these distinctions leads back to individualism. just saw the same argument this morning somewhere else. interesting thought!
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*say
Sk8eM dUb
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A big thing that frustrates me is - anarchists think that somehow countries/nations will be eliminated by free markets. That sort of diversity maximalism is the same value as socialism
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I dont mind a minarchist situation with small gov. I just dont see a good way to keep it like that. open to suggestions.
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talked with someone here about how gov is always getting bigger. only way is seems to be reduced is through punctuated events/revolutions.
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Considering “free market” exists on a spectrum, could you at least say BCH is in favor of a more anarchic system than currently?
Sk8eM dUb
replied 2139d
Depends on your definition of anarchy. If you mean fewer bosses/leaders/authorities I'd say no. Bitcoin isn't getting rid of those people, it merely is a hard check on corruption.
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know some companies (eg Valve) have tried "flat" organizational structures & it becomes flat in name only. everyone there knows who's in charge & who not to bother.
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idk it might. we'll have to see. dont feel strongly either way. if corruption is kept in check & the system works well & maintains freedom I'm cool with it.
Sk8eM dUb
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A stateless money would help! Really though, you gotta have a populace that recognizes and highly values inalienable individual rights and the corresponding responsibilities.
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yes I think this is clear from many societies around the world, but I dont like relying on it (bc its equivalent to class consciousness in communism).
Sk8eM dUb
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Nope that doesn't work because (the religious belief of) class consciousness values the group higher than individuals. Conversely, in Christianity you have a name that only God knows.
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"highly values inalienable individual rights" : free market :: class consciousness : communism
Sk8eM dUb
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The problem is that the only mechanism to keep that devotion to "good" that's worked so far has been devotion to a higher power(that's explicitly not interested in political power).
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That is mostly an assumption. Even societies without a higher power have a working morality. Eve animals seem to have basic morals. orals likely come before belief in a higher power.
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yeah... interesting to see what happens in more atheistic countries (EU). Eastern countries (eg Japan?) dont always have a god. but do have collectivist/in group leanings.
Sk8eM dUb
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Idiot "economists" who try to use Japan as an example of how to do things IGNORE the fact that it's a mono-ethnic state with it's border completely surrounded by a big beautiful wall.
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if your hypothesis about religion is true, then cultures with less religion should be less cohesive/trusting/successful. idk if Japan is a good example, just what came to mind.
Sk8eM dUb
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Also, currently in Shinto religion the gods are higher than the emperor. That was the huge gift that WWII gave them. Losing that war proved that no human is above the gods.
Sk8eM dUb
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Basically you need to have a reason to TRUST your neighbor for capitalism to work. In Japan that reason is ethnic. In America it's JESUS.
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haven't dug into it, but found quickly
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I do not think people are honest because they are christian. They’re honest because they have a reputation irl or online. Ebay ex, sellers must to have reputations near 100%.
Sk8eM dUb
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Yeah, Japan has a strong social contract, probably due to their public school system(which are basically military schools) and a thousand years history of rice farming.