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TrashPosterInTheDark
*have to* being the operative word. Dash is assuming u *have to* defend yourself in the absence of gov. can choose to make or buy food, make or buy security, make or buy money storage.
Sk8eM dUb
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If you don't write it down you'll have feudalism in no time. I don't see how this isn't self evident from a historical perspective. Whales are lazy, they don't want to compete.
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I’m sure there is a clever person/group who could make it work, why not let them try?
Sk8eM dUb
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Ironically, you'd have to become a group to try - which means you already failed.
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so the irony is where?
Sk8eM dUb
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To have a group you MUST make rules about - who's in or out, where is in or out, what happens when someone violates the rules of the group etc. If you have a group it's not anarchy.
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so every group is a government?
Sk8eM dUb
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You're proposing organizing a group based on a political ideology lol. Of course it's a government!
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1) not everything with a governance structure is a government (e.g. company) 2) governments have a monopoly on violence & citizens are forced to be part of it, without that not a gov.
Sk8eM dUb
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What happens when someone violates your "anarchy" contract? High five and say good game?
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what happens when anyone violates any contract. consequences are agreed to in the contract. it may just be a high-five, thanks for the input.
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is every group a government? anarchy means without rulers (ancaps define as basically gov). if you agree to join you'd sign a contract voluntarily.
Sk8eM dUb
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Sounds like a constitution to me! What happens when you violate the contract? What if you're framed?
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violations of the contract are covered in the contract when you sign it.
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did you sign the constitution?
Sk8eM dUb
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Will the children of your new anarchy paradise have to sign the contract that members have to sign to get in? What happens if they refuse?
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depends on how it's written. I would favor children being subject to their parents decisions until they're an adult when they can choose.
Sk8eM dUb
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What happens if they refuse to sign the contract? What happens if the child of a contract signer violates the contract? What if an internal group organizes to change the contract?
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real question is why someone who wants to try this out needs your permission & you to be ok with every what-if scenario. Why can’t you let people do what they want?
Sk8eM dUb
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Sounds like you don't have an answer 😂😂😂 I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the ideology by asking questions, you don't need my(or anyone's) permission lol
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"There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States." Texas v. White
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Point is, people acting through the free market provide an incredible range of products/services (some you dont even know you want until they’ve already been made).
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wasn't talking about writing it down at all but sure write it down, like a contract. and have the people who want to participate in it sign it, like a contract. & don't assume consent.
Sk8eM dUb
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It's useful to write it down - "if you live here, nobody can force you to to shut up when you're saying something they don't like. If you try to, your neighbors can arrest you"<---HUGE