For nonconsensual psychiatry to be outlawed, politicians need to effectively legalize suicide and outlaw the insanity defense. Suicide should be respected as a civil and human right.
It is legal in other parts of the world. But since the Bible/church says “you will go to hell” if you kill yourself and so many believe in thechurch it will not happen anytime soon
Why are people still believing in books written by the intention to control and manipulate the masses? Your own senses and logical thinking are the only way to receive the truth.
Philippians 4:7 "And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." So suicide doesn't seem congruent with Christianity.
Right that's why I use the word "seem". There's numerous other places that indicate God helps believers get through hard times. Nothing directly about suicide though.
And because someone else says something you believe it is true? Lies are the source of all evil. Shameless liars spreading fake news and naive people believing that.
The New Testament is pretty clear that once you become a Christian you get access to a distinct set of super powers known as "the fruit of the spirit", one of which is Peace.
I don’t know I personally don’t believe in the Bible or any religion and don’t really give it any thoughts. But the rest of my family is very religious
The correct answer is that God judges on a case by case basis for people who haven't accepted atonement for their sins. So maybe suicide is a sign that one hasn't done that.
You have to be dipped for that and accept Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior and if you don’t do those it doesn’t matter how good of a person u r. I’m going to hell
Ironically, if you believe in hell you're basically admitting to belief in God/some sort of afterlife. So you should probably get to the bottom of all that.
Baptism is not required in the Bible(though it's certainly encouraged). Roman Empire/Europe used it for citizenship so it got baked into the political version of Christianity.
Hold on. When you get dipped (I assume you mean christened), all the crap you did and will do is forgiven? That cant possibly be right. You still got a negative karma balance ;)
Your "negative karma balance" gets payed for by Jesus blood. Not when you're baptized, when you believe. The judge takes your death sentence for you, payed in full, past and future.
so, all I can do is hope my belief is enough and I actually have no control? Strong believer but a total asshole gets away? Screw that! It makes life pointless. Karma makes more sense
To clarify, from Ephesians 1 "When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance."
tl;dr If you don't believe then you're going to have to rely on what some call Karma to save you. Problem is, good intentions don't always yield good results.
"Karma to save you" - no, only You can "save" yourself. More like be reborn as a person, hopefully better or take yourself to hell (not really a place but more like state of mind)
How does the karmic system deal with bad things that happen due to good intentioned actions that you didn't foresee - or good things that happen even though you meant to do harm/evil?
Define bad and good in this context but lets say I am kind to you, you get all uppity and get hit by a truck because you thought you are special and deserve the way... Your karma.
It's very difficult to tell weather an occurrence or act is ultimately good or bad without being able to see far into the future. My question is, what force determines the outcome?
So it's only a good deed if it has a good outcome no matter what my original intention was? Like if I lend you $10 to get a sandwich and you get food poisoning it's on me?
why is it on you? Who sold me that crappy sandwich or who let the ingredients go bad. Maybe me. You are taking that stuff way to literally and way to linearly. Think 3D net + time
There's any number of examples. Giving to a charity that's actually engaging in human trafficking(cough* cough* UNESCO cough*. Give a fiver to a bum, he gets mugged by another bum.
point is, look around. Many people are in "hell" mental physical. Perverts for example are in hell. Disease, endless search for quick pleasure, more, still not enough, misery, suicide
John 1:12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— There's many more verses on this.
Exactly. If we want a full separation of church and state, then suicide needs to be respected as a civil and human right for all adults when it is done in private.
Laura, you truly live in a bubble if you think that many people believe in the church. Most of the people are forced to go to the church and they are forced to pay church tax.
Maybe you talk to a specific type of people? What is many for you? Do you know that Ratzinger the last pope is convicted by judges in bruessel for child abuse & now hiding in vatikan?