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lubokkanev
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Sk8eM dUb
Are you implying god *can't* create a world where there's good without bad? You seem to be underestimating 'eternal power' a bit.
Sk8eM dUb
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If you'd ever done anything creative in your life you'd realize what an absurd statement you're making. "Good" is a value judgement. If everything's 100% it's the exact same as all 0%.
lubokkanev
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View it this way: There are people that kill other people and ones that don't. Instead of creating both types and then torturing the bad one, only create the one that doesn't kill!
Sk8eM dUb
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Interestingly, you've pinpointed the exact meaning of "the knowledge of good and evil". It goes something like - I know how I can be hurt, therefore I know how to hurt you.
Sk8eM dUb
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And if I know how to hurt you(and I'm afraid of being hurt myself), I can use that knowledge to exert power over you. Keep in mind there are worse fates(by far) than death.
Sk8eM dUb
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So you're asking for a world of beings that are incapable of murder, torture, slavery or inflicting any pain on another - So like a world with only trees and shrubs? That's good?
Sk8eM dUb
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There's many things God can't do and it makes perfect sense. Eg., God can't lie. "Good" is a direction, so to create a "good" necessarily implies creating the possibility of bad.
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God also doesn't feel guilt. Guilt would imply having committed "wrong" action. As such, God is a sociopath.
TrashPosterInTheDark
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So God is a sociopath because he never commits wrong? Logic isn't your strength isn't it?
Sk8eM dUb
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A sociopath commits wrong but doesn't think/can't tell that it's wrong. Check your definition.
TrashPosterInTheDark
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I know exactly what a sociopath means. My point still stand.
Sk8eM dUb
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So, theoretically speaking, what did God do that's wrong? Create a world where "bad" is possible? (not trying to be argumentative here, I want to hear your point of view)
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Interesting - did you have a counter point or just insults?
TrashPosterInTheDark
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You claim that you have to be a sociopath to never commits wrong. Not feeling guilt is a consequence of that.

Am I understanding you right?
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I don't think so - the assumption was that as a perfect being God doesn't commit "wrongs" and "wrongs" are required for the feelings of guilt - sociopaths don't feel guilt.
TrashPosterInTheDark
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And sociopath do commit wrong.
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Yet, they do not feel guilt for it which is what makes them sociopathic. God doesn't feel guilt for what he does regardless - whether Gods actions are interpreted as "wrong" or not.
TrashPosterInTheDark
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Just as much he defines the laws of universe, he also defines what's wrong or not.
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I suppose that would be our axiomatic disagreement. I appreciate you explaining your point and helping me refine my own thoughts none the less!