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Simon Van Gelder
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Do you want slavery? Because that's how you get slavery.
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I disagree. How so?
Simon Van Gelder
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Enforcing delivery of a service is essentially slavery, unless I am missing something.
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Only if you yourself promised issued a credit to do so. Its 100% voluntary.
Simon Van Gelder
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Slavery agreed to in the past is still slavery.
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If you call free will slavery, then we are all slaves.
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Good thing nobody is calling free will slavery. Human will is, however, inalienable. If I agree to work 5 days for 100 dollars, I can leave in 4 days with 80, if I am free.
minkaminka
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"Free" is when you put energy in things that interest you. Responsibility may be one of them for some people. There's also a level of suffering that comes with ultimate freedom.
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Then there is not difference than pricing your labor in credits you yourself own and produce. Which is not controlled by those who control the money your labor is priced in,
Simon Van Gelder
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Yes it is: you get paid after the work, not before.
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If you break your promises of labor in a credit system, no one will accept your credit anymore and become bankrupt until you can return to good credit. Its all on you keeping truthful.
Simon Van Gelder
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And what, pray tell, must someone in "bad credit" do to restore credit? By doing the work originally promised?
Simon Van Gelder
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And you have the option of changing your type or application of labor (not a coal-miner for ever).
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Changing employment wouldnt be affected one bit. You would be paid in the credits (think of stock.) of the company you work under.
Simon Van Gelder
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I don't work for coupons. That's a very ruff sell.
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also, in your bio think you mean Bitcoin will become the prison of our *grandchildren* not forefathers. can be a prison in the past/before it was created.
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Our forefathers were imprisoned by Gold, we are returning to that same prison with Bitcoin. Banks will still wield BTC as Debt money.
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Banks and governments, and others looking to create something out of nothing, were restricted by gold.
minkaminka
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You are starting a thread on fundamentals in the psychology of wealth-building. Gold is important as BTC is important because man has fear. Fears are subsided with a form of security.
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To add to that, man holds a cash balance to prepare for uncertainty.
minkaminka
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There's always uncertainty. Just makes us feel better. So, anything to mitigate risk and the feeling of suffering.
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Not exactly. You can still create debt money with Gold. Just lend 1$ to your friend and him lend it again and once more, congrats, you indebted 3$ of goods with 1$. No printing needed.
Simon Van Gelder
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You cannot give away freewill, even by virtue of freewill. Even slaves have freewill: it's just that it might not matter when they're perpetually indebted by their father's fathers.