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over introducing each new planet? I don’t care if it’s lifted, that makes the new material (ie Star Wars) more accessible. I care that it doesnt fit in a Star Wars movie.
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Really, a poor phone connection joke? Breaks the setting & makes the first order look even more like bumbling buffoons.
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Phone jokes are classic Star Wars. There were TWO phone jokes in the original.
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We’re not watching the rebels fight for their lives we’re watching a bunch of actors have a laugh about how crazy awesome it is to be in a Star Wars movie.
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the problem is, in the quest to subvert expectations nothing is sincere. everything is ironic. everything is a joke. everything is meta.
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"the quest to subvert expectations" is a myth. The silliness juxtaposed with despair/turmoil is a device echoed directly from Attack of the Clones.
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And really the issue here is not subverting expectations of plot (though that is still annoying) it’s subverting expectations of basic story flow. The movie includes too much
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inappropriate bathos - continual breaks in mood. Always undercutting any serious situation with a joke. Would have been if Vader made a dad joke after telling Luke he was his father
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It is an ironic detachment. Self-referential jokes made to excuse the fact that the story is poorly written. “Cant think of a better plot point than a giant space laser, again?
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Just make a self-referential joke about it & move on with the rehashed plot.”
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"the object is not to subvert expectation" - Rian Johnson. Maybe his intention was not to subvert expectations but the result did
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