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Sk8eM dUb
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What if they get falsely accused?
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This does happen entirely too often.
It fairly results in both accuser and accused needing to justify themselves to their neighbors.
This justifies an open court to appeal to.
Sk8eM dUb
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UH OHHHH, sounds like you got a government!
SubjectiveReality
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@dash you should read up on English common law. Imperfect, but a self-organizing and determmining justice system that seeks truth through wisdomof the crowd over time
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There is a BIG difference between governing and neighbors.
Government is all about organizing thugs+taxes.
An open court a neigborhood might hold to examine an exile event.
Sk8eM dUb
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But you can't give me a solid figure on the question "how big is too big?". Tell me how organized is too organized. What should I do if I see an organization of people getting too big?
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Government is a croup of people organized to continually coerce a population.
Any size is too big.
A single problem may be solved by a single-session court, ad-hoc.
Sk8eM dUb
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Marxists like to change the definitions of words too.
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"What should I do if I see an organization of people getting too big?"
Difficult !
Is it popular ? For what reason ?
If popular for Harm it is probably time to move elsewhere.
Sk8eM dUb
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You're going to be a lonely nomad you're whole life then. People get together to do stuff they couldn't do alone. If it's valuable but has been corrupted I think fixing > abandoning
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A mostly lonely nomad my whole life already.
Nothing new there.
Populations do not often cooperate with being fixed.
Sometimes letting Darwin deal with it is the only solution.
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This underscores the issue of a population that "learns".
In theory an organization that can cause Harm should always be a one-off,
Exiling someone should never be something "easy".
Sk8eM dUb
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Quit making up rules!! Rules necessarily means cops!! I thought we wanted anarchy dammit!
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Rules ?
This I only suggest for those who find themselves in such circumstance.
And:
there is no reason a neighborhood might not form its own One-Law contract if 100% agree.
Sk8eM dUb
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Sounds like a commune to me lol. "Don't piss off Jim's wife, you might get exiled!!"
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Nothing ever conceived changes human nature to revert to behaviours common around the globe.
The mind boggles at what transpires under the banner "Let's go make our utopian commune"
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Excellent question.
"Permanent" Organizations have participants with hidden agendas.
Persistent hierarchy also indicates issues.
The village idiot should chair occasionally.
Sk8eM dUb
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Sk8eM dUb
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Wait did you just describe the USA!?!?!
Sk8eM dUb
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The problem I have with anarchists and marxists alike is y'all make these "should", "would", "could" statements without ever giving a method for enforcement.
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these are serving suggestions, not iron-fists
Enforcement is forbidden.
Fences not.
Thieves should be perfectly free to starve to death in the town square.
Or accept exile.
Sk8eM dUb
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This society sounds lonely, boring, dangerous and stressful. You should visit me in Japan. It's not perfect by any stretch but they stumbled upon some secret sauce.
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The secret sauce is a very, very well honed sense of shame. It's a natural prophylactic against humanity's innate douchebaggery.
Sk8eM dUb
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Shame is just another term for social-contract. I also think the balance between internal and external influence is great. They maintain a national identity without getting too cocky.
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I will look you up, it is on my bucket list and they have some amazing things I know.
Sk8eM dUb
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Sounds good! I gotta make dinner for the misses. Peace!
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Boss just ordered me to put my shackles back on for supper.
At least she does the cooking
Prosper !