why did you like VIII so much? (btw really love many shots in it, beautiful movie. didnt like plot or characters though)
If you just let It wash over you and don't try to anilyze it any deeper than your sense of the thing it's a lot like listening to jazz, you can enjoy it without knowing the rules.
Poetic forms eventually dropped the words all together and became sonata, rondo, theme and variations, ternary etc. etc.. Lucas has described the use of these forms as "visual jazz".
yeah, everything is a remix did a segment about the original star wars. took ideas, characters, shots from many westerns & wire fu movies.
haha thanks, totally missed all of those. whoops😬
There is new art, but it is not as immediately popular as art that uses pre-chewed and familiar words/themes/visuals.
Please show me an example of new art with no precedent(and no other thing that it's trying to deliberately be UNlike)
IV felt immediately familiar (like you said) but VII seemed stale (meta jokes about how stale it was didnt help)
agree, difference btw IV and VII though is IV used words, shots, characters, general story arcs. VII uses major plot points & ended up being an updated version of IV.
I did get the feeling of "this has all been done before, but with more conviction"...indeed VII was slick, but I feel it lost something (down in the heart area) in the update.
I could probably go on for hours talking about this question lol. I majored in music theory/composition and Star Wars uses an ancient epic poetry technique for its form.
They say "talking about music is like dancing about architecture". This is the same, it's hilarious to watch ppl get so frustrated.
But once you start into deep analysis you get like the Rolling Stone magazine reviewer trying to talk about John Coletrain. Like a basketball pro talking about crossword puzzles.
So when people get so frustrated that the story doesn't make sense, there's abrupt color changes, characters acting out of character etc.. they're not aware of the rules of the game.
have an archetype, and their actions dont together belong to any archetype. e.g. rose, she’s a maintenance worker but by the end is piloting in the battle.
OT=very basic. Then Episode One starts all riffing on the OT. You want Vader to have an axe to grind, an easy reason for him to become evil. But it's actually much more complex.
guess thats what I'm getting at. more interesting to see the backstory than yet another basic good vs evil. is OT an acronym?
yeah OT - Original Trilogy
So for the ST a lot of people judge it based on the OT and wish the PT never happened. That's like reading LOTR and just leaving out Two Towers cuz feelingzz
Rose is flying by the end because she's found her "why"(protect the people you love) so she can bear any "how"(flying into battle).
i guess, it's 'poetic' (might be what you mean by jazz like)
Rose's motivation is her sister. She idolizes her bravery and wishes she too could be come a "resistance hero". She realizes by the end that blowing up ppl you hate is endless futility
"I'm a person and my name is Anakin" is the third-wall-break you're looking for here. It's a lot like a jazz tune. OT is just the "head". A basic statement of the melody.
Part of it is the believability though. Obi Wan as a space wizard is believable because he acts like an archetypical wizard. Some of the characters in the new ones dont feel like they
I can handle color changes or symbolism with color, but I can't follow characters with conflicting personal philosophies. VII: beautiful movie though. should watch it on mute, lol jk.
