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You don't seem to understand that equal distribution of wealth. is only possible through the force of a central power. Freedom and Communism cannot coexist.
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Lasty, Communism has nothing about everyone having the same things or same wealth, its only about making everyone to EARN WHAT THEY HAVE FROM THEIR OWN WORK and not from work of others
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Profiting from your own work is fine. Working for a company without paying for the company to operate is theft and entitlement. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Thats because communism depends on an invalid idea of value. Communism has the wrong notion that value comes from labour. This is wrong and leads to zero sum systems that force poverty
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This is a great way to put it wow
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How the fuck can so many of you be so fucking blind!?
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I ask myself that question about communists all the time. How can you not see the obvious truth that I spelled out for you?
John_Doe
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Not an argument.
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And what has America been doing for decades and decades? KILLING OTHER PEOPLE, OVERTHROWING OTHER GOVERNMENTS, 1000 MILITARY BASES OUTSIDE US, ITS ALL CALLED CAPITALIST IMPERIALISM!!!
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No, some just pretend that is capitalist imperialism to justify their bad ideas. I don't care for it, but I understand the idea of a nation protecting it's interests.
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America & UK haven't been protecting their interests, they have been ATTACKING, KILLING, TORTURING & EXPLOITING OTHERS and blaming others for shit they have been doing all this time!
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Well if you are just going to make stuff up then communists eat babies since they have no food.
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wow, you are calling me a liar when I say that US/UK have been attacking others? If you don't even see this reality why am I talking to you at all. You are still fully in the Matrix.
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To pretend they are just evil and killing for fun shows you have no idea what goes on in this world. Yes troops are sent places, yes military bases exist, and are asked for.
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And Communism doesn't poverty you idiot, what it does is prevent some greedy fuckers to exploit society. Look around you stupid fuck, WHO CONTROLS AMERICA? CAPITALISTS DO!!!
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Why does communism always lead to poverty then? Why does capitalism always lead to a higher quality of life, and reduction in poverty?
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You literally have to be ignorant and brainwashed not to see the reality. Look no further then America, look at how rich Capitalists live & what they have, then look at everyone else.
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Yes, I've done that. Which is why I know capitalism works so well. The "poor" in capitalism are far better off than the average person under communism.
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Communism doesn't lead to poverty, its your perception of wealth that's wrong. In Capitalism most people are not wealthy, very small minority is & wealth inequality increases over time
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Inequality is natural, and not itself a problem. It can be bad when inequality goes too far, but inequality itself is fine. It happens in all forms of nature.
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True to a point although capitalism gives you much more opportunity at being wealthy over communism. I’ve been to Russia 4 times & have witnessed it for myself...
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Human mind is completely polluted with materialism, people have lost meaning of life, are so brainwashed that they can't even see when they allow mass murder due to their own ignorance
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This is why Monarchs, Capitalists are always fighting against it, they are literally brainwashing people to hate the very thing that frees them from being economic slaves.
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Communism to Capitalism (& Monarchy, Slavery & Feudalism) is what Bitcoin's PoW system is to Central banking PoS system. Its Decentralised economic system to replace centralised ones.
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Communism ensures no one can get stupidly rich like that, instead of 0.01% having as much as 1/2 of rest of people, all people would have way more & rich would still be well off.
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No one needs or deserves to be that rich, and you don't need to go to Russia to see poor, there are tens of millions of poor people right these in US but also other Capitalist nations
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Yes indeed, Capitalism allows you to get extremely rich but in order to do so person needs to be greedy, immoral, psychopathic maniac, no one normal needs or wants such extreme wealth.
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Vast majority if people in US (epicenter of Capitalism) are very POOR. National GDP is not good measure of people's wealth? Take just top 10 most wealthy out, and US is poor as shit.
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I judge each system by the poor. Capitalism is better for the poor.
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Nothing to do with value& all to do with EARNING FROM YOUR OWN WORK ONLY! COMMUNISM IS ECONOMIC SYSTEM IN WHICH WORKERS OWN MEANS OF PRODUCTION. Communism uses PROOF OF WORK concept.
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Capitalism allows everyone to own the means of production in a far better way. In the information age every computer is the MoP. Go produce software. Go buy shares in a company.
John_Doe
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More caps. Didn't get your point.
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Read again if you didn't get the point. Caps or no caps its still readable and point is there and its very valid one.
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Communism ensures the MoP are essentially useless.
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Do you even know what you're saying? You are saying someone producing something & benefiting from it themselves is useless. Farmer growing food, selling & taking all profit is useless?
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I am saying that economic model is useless. It means poverty for all, and no one to sell product to. So it ends up being useless.

Farmers make up 1% of the population. Think about it.
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MoP? means of production? How exactly does workers owning their own means of production makes it useless? Don't you know that this is paradox and such thing can't exist?
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It isn't a paradox. It is what history shows us. The only model that works is in the capitalist model of a coop. Otherwise the inevitable economic collapse makes it useless to own them
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Freedom & Communism can & did exist, its the private ownership their self interest, brainwashing created through TV, adds etc & creation of fear through force, that poisoned human mind
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Just not the freedom to keep your money? Or spend your money in excess of what the state/society approves etc.?
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There is no freedom without private ownership. Private ownership predates advertisement, and the other things you assume created it.
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No, that's rubbish. Its people like you and pro-capitalists that don't understand that wealth is EXTRACTED through production of goods and services & that the rich extract wealth.
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Wealth is not extracted through production of goods. Wealth is created. The rich invest in ways that allow the same amount of labour to create even more wealth.
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Again you show you are so clueless. While its true wealth is created from work, what is this wealth other than PROFITS? And who gets them? The Capitalist does. You just don't get it.
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What if i told you workers have their salaries paid in the profits of the company? Employees assume no risk, no financial liability working for the company.