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well i would say that BSV requires you to trust that money works as an incentive 🤑💰
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I'm surprised that Coingeek has sustained over 51% of the hash since the fork. That us a pretty long time to not voluntarily scale it back in order to not be centralised.
Sk8eM dUb
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Wait until it's the most profitable 256 coin to mine. If it's still 51%+ coingeek then your complaint will be valid.
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The complaint is always valid. It is a bad thing that honest miners avoid. Coingeek doesnt avoid it.
Sk8eM dUb
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Once some competition wakes up to the game there'll be plenty of people jumping into mining.
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For what reason? What appeal is there to BSV?
Sk8eM dUb
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It scales according to this plan https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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Sounds nice, but it doesnt. People pretend it is all about the white paper, but it isn't. He just used what seemed like nice slogans to pull in the gullable.
Sk8eM dUb
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Example or stfu
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Satoshis Vision is itself just a meaningless slogan. CSW pretends he is Satoshi. People crying about bi blocks vs small blocks, and pretending this is another of those.
Sk8eM dUb
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ABC doesn't look like it's getting bigger blocks anytime soon. Also the REASON for bigger blocks is very important. SV wants millions/day more txns on chain as soon as possible.
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Actually ABC does have larger blocks on the roadmap. Bigger blocks dont make more transactions happen. It makes more possible. You need adoption to really increase the blocksize.
Sk8eM dUb
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Blockstream has a solution for lightning routing "on the roadmap" too. Will you be forking off if "Bitcoin" cash remains at 32mb on the next non-emergency mandatory update?
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Only if regular blocks were anywhere near 32 MB would I think the increase was needed. Considering ABC will handle big blocks better than any other blockchain it is clear they are best
Sk8eM dUb
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Getting a random restaurant to take payments from hobbyists is not going to make up for the block reward halving. If we don't get butt tons of txns on chain ASAP Bitcoin WILL DIE.
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Yes, and so as I was saying adoption matters more than the max blocksize. Blocksize talk is irrelevant if there isn't enough transactions to even half full the blocks.
Sk8eM dUb
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Chicken and egg problem. There won't be any large businesses interested if it's not already demonstrably possible for them to put a half gig of txns on chain every day.
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Not a chicken and egg problem at all. The blocksize is not what businesses look at when considering accepting Bitcoin. Adoption first increase the blocksize as needed.
Sk8eM dUb
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Let me repeat, there will be NO massive adoption of Bitcoin as money until the price swings are within a small range year to year. It will be a commodity ledger first, or it will die.
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Great, move the goalpost why dont you. I was correcting you when you said no one will accept Bitcoin untill the blocksize is increased.
Sk8eM dUb
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You win. You're right. Small blocks forever!!
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Yeah, that has nothing to do with BCH vs BSV. It is not big block vs small block in anyway. It is efficient big blocks vs inefficient big blocks.
cbeastsv
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Anytime it enjoys some uptick, they will split the chain and kill the momentum. They have no defined vision or definite roadmap.
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What are you talking about? Who doesnt have s definite roadmap?
Sk8eM dUb
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The normiest NPC answer possible, as expected. It doesn't matter if freaking Amazon accepts Bitcoin for payments, no one will use Bitcoin as money until the price stabilizes.
Raineko
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The price can only stabilize when the majority of coins are distributed between people. We need to create more demand for BCH first.
Sk8eM dUb
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Right, the delusion is in the expectation that it'll be in demand for monetary usage any time soon. It won't! You need to be able to use it as a unit of account.
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Which is completely irrelevant to what we were saying. You were saying no one would use Bitcoin until the blocksize was increased. I said we need adoption first.
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Troll.
homopit
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Come to earth.
homopit
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Codebase is the same. Limit is 500x over the demand. Certainly enough until next year. About millions tx/day, from where, who do you think is so eager to use the blockchain?
Sk8eM dUb
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Remember that you're using the future uncensorable twitter? There's a few tens of millions+ of txns/day more. Need I go on? How do you expect miners to pay their bills with no volume?
Sk8eM dUb
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Fincen companies need secure ledgers, right now that mission critical infrastructure is very expensive to maintain. SV can do it 2 orders of magnitude cheaper.
Sk8eM dUb
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My buddy works for a medical robot company that wants to use a blockchain for secure diagnostic sharing globally, the fastest/cheapest way will of course be op_return txns on SV.
Sk8eM dUb
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There's a guy here in Tokyo who is putting all land registries on the planet into the blockchain and using a searchable database that's quicker and easier than any government's.
cbeastsv
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SV means Bitcoin v0.1 as originally intended. Nothing to do with block size because that was never a permanent issue. Not that hard to understand.
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Satoshi upgraded past v0.1 why go back that far? Satpshi never thought development was finished, and so it is dishonest to pretend that SV was the view of Satoshi.
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Up to which point did Satoshi upgrade the protocol?
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Not sure at what point he left development, but it doesnt really matter. It wasn't meant to be finished when he left.
bchbtch
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Interesting, what slogans are you referring to?
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Big blocker, as if this was another big vs small block battle. Satoshis Vision is itself just a slogan as well. Since CSW pretends he is Satoshi.
bchbtch
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Oh I thought you were talking about the whitepaper.
TrashPosterInTheDark
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There is great appeal to CSW's wild and empty claims.
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CoinGeek week is about to start, #excited, lets see where things end up on emptiness