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2284d · FASCISM
American MSM say Socialism created economic crisis in Venezuela, that its dictatorship. This is actual truth:
it is Capitalist Fascist US causing it all
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Except it is easy to see that Venesualia created their own problem. Chavez got the ball rolling by appropriating everything so that the government had no tax revenue.
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Only thing wrong Venezuelan gov did was to continue to print fiat to cover lack of income from oil export (so to cover social services). They should just freeze money printing.
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Appropriating private business was the first mistake of Chavez. The creating jobs by utting extra people into oil production without them being needed ruined profitability.
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Its the US imperialism, US backing ISIS and Al-Nusra and other terrorists groups, is what made the oil price plummet which made the income of Venezuela's decrease a lot.
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ISIS didn't exist when the problems in Venezuela started. Venezuela made their oil too expensive by adding far too many employees. Then when the price came back down they were screwed.
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US has been fucking up Middle East long before Venezuela crisis... US has been creating and aiding terrorists (just with different name) for decades. You are so ignorant.
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You are bringing up two separate issues and pretending they are related. You are also confusing the actions of OPEC with the actions of the USA.
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How are they not related? What US has been doing for 2 decades in Middle East has indirect consequence for Venezuela (and other places also).
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How did the USA interfering in the Middle East cause Chavez to appropriate all the successful businesses, and force their oil company to become unprofitable?
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You know how big capitalist business takes small business out? Selling things bellow cost to drive them out, when they are out they put prices back up & end up with monopoly.
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Which is completely unrelated to this issue. Venezuela made their oil unprofitable by ruining the business model and forcing them to hire more employees without need.
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There are many sides to what US as been doing over all these decades, its not just 1 or 2 things, its many things together... and undermining other nations economically is one of them.
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You can't just blame the USA without showing any real connection. As it is the economic policy of Chavez, and now Moduro, are obviously to blame.
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Connections are all already there, you just seem to want to ignore them.
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The connection is there. It was that fault of Chavez. He ruined the economy of his nation. If the USA didn't exist it would have happened just the same.
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I am done trying to talk logic and facts with you, you ignoring US imposing decade long sanctions, arming terrorists & undermining their democracy shows you are FULL OF SHIT. Fuck off.
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Those are different issues that have little to nothing to do with the economic problems in Venezuela.

Vesuala doesn't have democracy anyway. They have a dictatorship.
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As I said you are ignorant as shit. Venezuelan crisis is created by the Fascist capitalist America so just fuck off. Not interested in your bullshit propaganda and ignorance.
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You have zero evidence to support your absurd ideas. He'll I gave you a link where the history and reasons where explained very well. Venesualla hurt itself.
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You're dumb and ignorant as fuck. Stick your means of reproduction int your own ass so you don't multiply by some accident.
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ED, you moronic leftist cuck, Venezuela & all the other commie wannabe shitshows are fucked because communism doesn't work & was invented by a clown who never worked a day in his life
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Insults are the arguments for the dumb
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Insults? I thought leftist adore cucks.
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People like you are scum
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People like me would do far more to help the poor than you.
replied 2220d
How do you "help" the poor? By investing bit of money to set up production line in which you will exploit need from poor people to make yourself richer? GO FUCK YOURSELF & such "help"
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Speaking out against communism is helping the poor.
replied 2219d
You are one fucking dumb cunt
replied 2219d
Well look at how capitalism has created a middle class in developing nations. Let's also look at how communism destroys the middle class in developed nations.
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Do me a favor and just stop replying to me, I see you are clueless, you have zero understanding what is what and you have zero honesty to admit when you are proven wrong. Just piss off
replied 2219d
You have yet to prove anything. You seem to rely on people just taking your words for gospel. You have no evidence to back up what you say.
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I proved everything already, you are just ignoring all the proof, so as I said, do me a favor and just fuck off.
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Your proof was to declare that things are obvious. Declaring your opinion to be obvious is not proof. I on the other hand gave you a link to help understand the problem.
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Capitalism is a system designed to make the capitalists rich only, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT CAPITALISM CREATED. IT CREATED ECONOMIC CLASS DIVISION SAME AS IT EXISTED BEFORE CAPITALISM.
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I think capitalism is another word for money addiction. Or capitalism might actually work if you take your health as your capital. In the end its just an overused word without meaning.
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You are a fucking dumb cunt. Not one thing you write is true. You are even so fucking stupid to say now that Communism is even existing in developed nations? You fucking moron!
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He is intentionally trolling you and he does a good job as he achieved to get you go mad. Complex politics can not be described in a single word. That only works with fascism=hate.
replied 2222d
Come on man: US aids terrorists who took over oil fiends & sell very cheap oil, oil prices plummet globally, Venezuela's income is greatly from oil, so their income goes down also.
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That is untrue. OPEC decided to increase supply after artificially raising prices by a lowered supply for years. This ruined the profitability of Venezuela's main export.
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US sabotage did this by creating lack of basic goods by forcing sanctions, creating chaos by arming terrorists & because oil price being low, again because of US wars in Middle East.
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They were lucky to continue to get loans from American bankers. Then they were lucky to get loans from the Chinese. Now they are running out of luck. They ruined their own economy.
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Not at all. You just seem to ignore everything I said. But hey, suit yourself.
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What you were saying had little to nothing to do with the issue. You obviously listen to the propoganda more than the facts. This might help you.

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They didn't create this, America did, but they did make it worse by printing more fiat. Back in Yugoslavia we had similar thing only government decided to freeze printing & it helped.
John_Doe
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Do you believe taxation is theft or legitimate?
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Taxation is not theft if the money is used for the benefit of the people. If that money goes into things that benefit some business or someone is stealing it, then its theft.
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In Venezuela taxes forma they "benefit" of the people goes to the Money laundry of "socialista" politicians. they Say they help but they only give crumbs,
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And? Read again what I said, I was VERY SPECIFIC in my language, I said IF tax money is not used for its intended purpose (such as someone stealing that money) then its theft. CLEARLY.
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socialism is communism, and communism means abolition of private property, why do you want the state to own your stuff, ED? why do you want to be controlled?
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Socialism is not Communism. You dont know the difference either.
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And while you seem to want to shit on Socialism, saying how its bad because some politician steals money, in US Capitalists/Politicians stole not millions or billions but TRILLIONS!
John_Doe
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So I can knock on your door. Put a gun to your head, steal your stuff and sell it as long as I use the money to buy food for my children and give the rest to the orphanage.
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taking money from me for yourself only is not intention of taxation. Its to provide ALL CITIZENS with services, so it means everyone benefits from it so its not stolen from them.
John_Doe
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Ok I will give it all to orphanages, we cool now?
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You just don't get it. I'll try one more time: Your tax money provides YOU with services and infrastructure, not just other people as you people like to make it up.
John_Doe
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Ok you got me, you drive a hard bargain. I will fix a few potholes too. Nice doing business with you.
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You really are stupid. Do you even know what is the intention of the Tax? Its to provide services for the people, which includes you also. If money is used as intended it is not theft.
John_Doe
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Ok so I will give you some of the proceeds back, or buy you some food too. Happy now? Or shall I put you in jail to convince you.
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ED you can not argue with brainwashed liars. They don't know what they are doing. You know the truth and you can spread the information. You can only loose time arguing with alcoholics