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Barricade
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Bitcoin is permissionless. Who are you to tell us what can we do with it?
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You can waste your money if you want. Doesn't mean it was ever a good idea. Satoshi never made BTC for small payments, which is why he knew sidechains were needed.
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Satoshi envisioned online, permissionless micropayments from the very first release. :)
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And then later he realized the need for sidechains to scale. Dumbass.
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Where did he say that?
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Once [Bitcoin] gets bootstrapped[...]you could effortlessly pay a few cents to a website as easily as dropping coins in a vending machine.

- Satoshi (RE: Bitcoin V0.1 Released)
Simon Van Gelder
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Still waiting for HTTP Error Code 402 (Payment Required) to enter general usage.
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Difference between HTTP 402 and Bitcoin is that Bitcoin actually made progress in that area ;)
Simon Van Gelder
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I would image the majority of these types of payments will be of the the mico-type. If a single chain is to become the default, it will need to be able to handle these transactions.
Simon Van Gelder
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Again, a fundamental misunderstanding: this time of my point. 402 says "use something to pay us", crypto is only one way to pay.
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402 is then obviously obsolete, since it has gained no traction, and crypto has.

I don't really understand where HTTP 402 comes into play when regarding crypto micropayments.
Simon Van Gelder
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They are complimentary technologies, not in competition.
Simon Van Gelder
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402 Errors are returned by a website when you need to make a payment for access. Access could be a snail-mailed OAuth token, but crypto now makes this feasible.That's why I'm waiting.
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Ahhh. 402 initiates payment, then crypto is used for that payment. Yeah, I see your point now. I guess BIP70 supercedes the HTTP402 in this case
Simon Van Gelder
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402s been around for a long time, but "Reserved for future use": Already part of the HTTP protocol, and would just take BIP70 on top as a data format. BIP70 is new to me, will read up.
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I don't dispute that. Personally I will use what works reliably and securely, whichever becomes commonplace is fine by me, so long as crypto is the underlying asset used for payments
Simon Van Gelder
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Here's an example implementation combining the two (not mine, not tested): https://github.com/bumi/api-payments-example/blob/master/README.md
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[Bitcoin] could get started in a narrow niche like reward points, donation tokens, currency for a game or micropayments for adult sites.

- Satoshi Nakamoto (RE: Bitcoin V0.1 Released)
Barricade
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I know how the narrative follows: Bitcoin isn't designed for people who earn less than $2/day. BTW, memo posts are small payments.
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Bitcoin isn't for people who earn less than $2/day. Lightning Network, is. Maybe a Memo can be made with lightning. Who knows?
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>BTC isn't for people who earn less than $2/day

Fixed that for you.

Bitcoin is for everybody :)
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I can prove to you that Bitcoin is for everybody: https://imgur.com/a/1NGtpoG

That's you, my friend! :D
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LN isn't even ready for the average consumer making $100/day because the UX expectation is high but the delivery is less than satisfactory. Too much risk even for small txs.