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anarchovegan
It isn't perceived legitimacy. It is actual legitimacy. Propaganda that discourages voting originated with those who want to discourage the lower classes from voting.
anarchovegan
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Based on what? Your opinion?
Do you believe that it's ok for government to force you to fund things that you're opposed to?
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A good metaphor is a temperature setting for a crowded public place. The right temperature is one that makes equal amounts of complaints for too hot and too cold.
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Yes, and yes. If we go by what you want that is tyranny. We instead go by what the people want. No one should be perfectly happy.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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“No one should be perfectly happy”
I can’t say I agree with this at all. Happy is the entire point of life. If your not happy then all that remains is sadness & disappointment.
anarchovegan
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Isn't happy the result of living a purposeful life?
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Happy is the entire purpose of life! Happy is also a choice that can be made everyday. I choose to be habitually happy every single day. Life is much better this way 😎👌🏻
anarchovegan
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How is happy the entire purpose of life? Could you explain that further?
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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So if instead of waiting for all these achievements/results in order to be happy. Instead you can just simply choose happiness regardless of circumstances. Habitual happiness.
anarchovegan
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What do you mean by "choose happiness"?
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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You always have a choice in any present moment circumstance to be happy or not. It is a choice to search for and focus on the positive/happy and hold onto that instead of anger/upset
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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When your in traffic you have a choice to either be annoyed or angry your stuck in traffic or choose to put on some music happily enjoying a few extra songs on your way home.
anarchovegan
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I prefer meditating during such times. It's less dangerous.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Meditation is great! It trains your mind from running on autopilot all day to you having control over what you give your focus to. I have been meditating for almost 1 year daily now.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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In everything that we do, it is always with the end result to be achieving happiness. Go on vacation/happy, buy something/happy, choose a mate/happy. It always comes back to happy.
anarchovegan
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Perhaps you could define what you mean by happiness.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Feeling happy in your emotions. Feel happy with the expression of happiness on your face. Experience happiness inside your mind&body. Feel the feeling of happiness as much as possible.
Sk8eM dUb
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Happiness without deeper any meaning is as empty (and destructive) as nihilism. Happiness can't exist without the contrast of mundanity. Perpetual happiness would be merely normal.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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I have been making happiness my default feeling for the past year and I can promise you that it is not mundane and it has only enriched my life. Life is better when you Feel Happiness
Sk8eM dUb
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Maybe you'll have to define it better. I think thankfulness, contentedness etc. are precursors to occasional happy moments. You can still be sad/disappointed but choose to be thankful.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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I do agree with what you said though about “you can be sad/disappointed but choose to be thankful”.
Very true
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Being sad/disappointed can happen but holding onto that feeling is where the problems occur. Being thankful/content can happen and holding onto that is where happiness occurs.
Sk8eM dUb
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When bad things inevitably happen in your life choosing to be happy about it is pathological. Someday your parents are going to die. Friends will betray you. You need a better plan.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Bad things will always happen, sure, but focusing on the bad only makes it worse. Finding the good within the bad brings better perspective/insight. It’s not pathological at all.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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When my parents eventually die, I will be grateful and happy for the many wonderful years we shared. When a friend betrays me I can be happy for all the joys we shared & hope them well
John_Doe
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 🇺🇸
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It was poorly worded. This analogy is closer.

Like temperature in a large public building. The correct temperature is the one that makes equal complaints of too hot and too cold.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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I agree that is a better analogy, however is there a reason that the cold cannot be given blankets and the too warm be given cooler clothing? Everyones happiness is still achievable.
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You will then find people who hate the blankets, and or hate dressing with less. When you get enough people together anything you think of will post of someone.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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It is the difference between living life from a glass half empty or glass half full perspective. You always receive whatever your expectations permit. Positive expectations 👌🏻
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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There is always a way for everyone’s needs to be satisfied. Assuming everyone can be happy is far for effective/beneficial than assuming everyone’s unhappiness.
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Diminishing unhappiness is a better goal then increasing everyone's happiness, even though they sound the same they are not.

Like how science works by disproving instead of proving.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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What you just said has a Glass half full/Glass half empty perspective.
The positive perspective alternative will always achieve a better result for everyone if it is what’s desired.
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Since what is desired is varied then increasing happiness for one will sometimes decrease happiness for another.

That said happiness shouldn't be the highest standard anyway.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Fair enough although there is usually a means to create happiness for all. As with the room too cold/too hot situation. Cold gets warmer clothes/hot get cooler clothing. Everyone happy
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Doesn't work in a public building. People wont want your handout clothes, or like being told what to wear.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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Glass half empty perspective 😉
It is just as easy to assume that the cold will be grateful for the warmer clothes/heat and the hot will be grateful for the cooler clothing/AC
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We are talking about public buildings in real life. We dont hand out clothes and tell people how to dress when they go to the mall.

This is how public buildings are actually managed.
anarchovegan
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"No one should be perfectly happy."
Could you explain what you mean by that?
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Society should not be designed around the wishes of one individual.
anarchovegan
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Are you saying that instead of having society designed around "you", it is designed around "the people"?
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Yes. I am also saying often people dont realise that the things they dislike are things the people asked for.
anarchovegan
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"it is designed"
*have it designed around
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anarchovegan
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I wasn't asking you.
Metalbrushes_Tattoo
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lol
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Based on democratic ideals, i suppose.
anarchovegan
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What are democratic ideals, and why those?