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John_Doe
Yes it does. I am all for automation. I was more speaking about how we should accept some portion of the population not being employable.
John_Doe
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The poor will always be with us. Been like that since the dawn of civilization. Stealing from someone to pay to the poor is criminal.
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It is hardly theft. The hyperbolic idea that taxation is theft has no merit. It is based on faulty premises.
John_Doe
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Taking something from someone that belongs to him and giving it to someone else to whom it does not belong is theft.
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Which is irrelevant, and does not explain taxation. Taxation is payment for services rendered. You choose to live in a place that benefits from those taxes.
John_Doe
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No the majority of people think they can live at the expense of everybody else. They vote for politicians selling them these fairytales.
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Both sides end up believing fairy tales. The people you please to get into power are not the same as the people you need to please to stay i power.
John_Doe
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No, some people are smart enough to know they won't be able to keep their promises even if they wanted to. Unfortunately these people are in the minority.
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And separating kids from their parents at the border is Kidnapping.
SubjectiveReality
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Only at the border? Isn't taking parent's hard earned income by taxation robbing from children by the same reasoning? Isn't "child services" guilty of kidnapping constantly? #blinders
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If Child services takes a child it's generally for the safety of the child. That is a hell of a lot different than taking a child from a parent that is seeking Asylum.
SubjectiveReality
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Is it? Those parents chose to drag their children across a barren wasteland of a desert with little water and in the company of organized criminals. For what? Selfish creature comfort
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Boy if that is what you think, you are an ignorant Moron. You should listen to a Real Republican like John Kasich and stop listening to the Trump Trash.
SubjectiveReality
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Well that didn't take long to resort to name calling in lieu of making an argument. Children call names. Adults refine and hone reason as a skill to cooperate and solve problems.
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The world makes a lot of sense when you realize most people still behave like children.
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You are right. I should have not said Moron. But you still are ignorant.
SubjectiveReality
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Show me how, if you can. Otherwise it is you who are ignorant. Show me what it is that you know that I do not.
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"Selfish creature comfort." Isn't this what we all want? Eat, drink, and have a place to sleep. Don't judge others for wanting what you want: a bit of security and peace.
SubjectiveReality
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Are you suggesting there is no comfort, food, drink, or shelter in Central/South America? Methinks you watch too much tv. Go for a visit, you might be surprised.
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It's simply that the prices are too high and that there are not enough jobs. They are poor. They realize that even the poor in America eat. They are coming because they are hungry.
SubjectiveReality
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And you think there are enough jobs for unskilled, uneducated labor in America? Welfare to those who contribute nothing will break the entire system sooner than later. No, not okay.
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These people are heading to the U.S border because their kids are being raped and killed if they don't join a gang or a drug ring. They are trying to get a better life.
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What a load of bollocks! THEY have to fix it. If they don't, they deserve what they got. Those #immigrants turn host countries into shitholes like the ones they are from. #Deport!
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If I was in charge I'd administer an intelligence on the populous. All the people who fail - like you - would be deported.
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Then send your ass back from where your family originally came from too. Don't need shitholes like you in the U.S
TrashPosterInTheDark
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So you agree that there are shithole cultures?
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Immigrants come to the U.S for a better life. It's always been that way. Your azz doesn't get to decided who gets to stay. If you are singling out any group of people = racist
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No there are individual shitholes like you that are racists, bullies, and Bigots.
SubjectiveReality
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Where is your evidence to support that claim? I don't believe it. I've lived in various parts of South America. Tens of millions live there and have for generations. How?
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War on drugs * . Honduras is a key US "ally" in the region and tacitly approved of military coup and regime as long as the war continues. The democratic process was destroyed.
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US war on terror: "Since 2009, the US has invested nearly $114m in security assistance to establish elite military and police u... as part of Hernández’s crackdown on gangs."
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So your saying that the US actually caused this problem & are systematically imposing propaganda to demonize the victims of its actions? SHOCKING! SURELY THEYVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE!
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Empire building, amirite? Any EU4 player worth the salt would realize that the US of A needs a war. The US needs to punch a lot of gold out of some place, or disband a lot of troops.
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Or just declare bankruptcy, eat -3 stability, and start killing rebels.
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My parents have experienced life under a military dictatorship supported / accepted / encouraged by the United States. This is a common experience for many people around the world.
Sk8eM dUb
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The question is almost never an either/or(as the Hegelian crazies would have you believe), it's a question of how bad the problem is, where to draw the line and who's going to pay.
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There was once a time when almost everyone had to be involved in food production for everyone to eat. Now it is less than 1% of the people. Today almost everyone creates wealth...
Sk8eM dUb
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More wealth will bring higher demand for high quality, sustainably grown/raised food(and low skill jobs). My Japanese wife refuses to eat American eggs because they taste so terrible.
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Mostly a machines job. Agriculture will not go back to employing a lot of people as if would make food too expensive to buy.
Sk8eM dUb
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Could be more people though. America's(subsidized) addiction to mass produced corn and wheat products is not sustainable long term. Even the beef eat corn, it's awful.
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The US is very protectionist over agriculture, but most nations are. Agriculture is the last thing to globalise. Nations still want food security is globalism breaks down.