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2167d · Plato
that men are not just of their own free will — unless, peradventure, there be someone whom the divinity within him may have inspired with a hatred of injustice or who has attained knowledge of the
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2167d · Plato
there be someone who is able to disprove the truth of my words, and who is satisfied that justice is best, still he is not angry with the unjust but very ready to forgive them, because he also knows
1AWASXkpby5Mogxq
2167d · Plato
this, Socrates, how can a man who has any superiority of mind, person, rank or wealth be willing to honour justice or, indeed, to refrain from laughing when he hears justice praised? And, even if
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2167d · Plato
the latter with a deceitful regard to appearance, we shall fare to our mind both with gods and men, in life and after death, as the most numerous and the highest authorities tell us. Knowing all
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2167d · Plato
who were their poets and prophets, bear a like testimony. On what principle, then, shall we any longer choose justice rather than the worst injustice? Many luminaries concur that, if only we unite
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2167d · Plato
deeds." Yes, my friend, will come the calculated reflection, but there are mysteries and atoning deities, and these have great power. That is what mighty cities declare, and the children of the gods,
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2167d · Plato
praying, and our praying and our sinning, the gods will be propitiated and we will not be punished. "But there is a world below in which either we or our posterity will suffer for our unjust
1AWASXkpby5Mogxq
2167d · Plato
injustice: for, if we are just, although we may escape the vengeance of heaven, we shall lose the gains of injustice; but, if we are unjust, we shall keep the gains and, by our sinning and our
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2167d · Plato
by "sacrifices and soothing entreaties and offerings". Let us be consistent then and believe both or neither. If the poets speak truly, why, we had better be unjust and offer of the fruits of
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2167d · Plato
gods, and they do care about us, we know of them only from tradition and the genealogies of the poets — nowhere else. These poets are the very persons who say that they may be influenced and turned
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2167d · Plato
deceived; nor can they be compelled. But what if there are no gods? Or suppose them to have no care of human things. Why, in either case, should we mind about concealment? And, even if there are
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2167d · Plato
art of persuading courts and assemblies. And so, partly by persuasion and partly by force, I shall make unlawful gains and not be punished. Still I hear a voice say that the gods cannot be
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2167d · Plato
would be happy, is the path along which we should proceed. With a view to concealment, we will establish secret brotherhoods and political clubs. And there are professors of rhetoric who teach the
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2167d · Plato
recommends. But I hear someone exclaiming that the concealment of wickedness is often difficult, to which I answer, Nothing great is easy. Nevertheless, the argument indicates that this, if we
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2167d · Plato
I will describe around me a picture and a shadow of virtue to be the vestibule and exterior of my house. Behind I will trail, the subtle and crafty fox, as Archilochus, greatest of sages,
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2167d · Plato
I acquire the reputation of justice, a heavenly life is promised me. Since, then, as philosophers prove, "appearance loos truth" and "is lord of happiness", to appearance I must surely devote myself.
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2167d · Plato
all my days?" For what men say is that, if I am really just and am not also thought just, of profit there is none, but the pain and loss on the other hand are unmistakable. But, if, although unjust,
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2167d · Plato
they would make the best of life? Probably the youth will say to himself, in the words of Pindar, "Should I, by justice or by crooked ways, ascend a loftier tower which may be a fortress to me for
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2167d · Plato
quick-witted and, like bees on the wing, light on every flower and, from all that they hear, prone to draw conclusions as to what manner of persons they should be and in what way they should walk if
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2167d · Plato
the young hear all this said about virtue and vice, and the way in which gods and men regard them, how are their minds likely to be affected, my dear Socrates — those of them, I mean, who are
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2167d · Plato
of the living and the dead. The latter sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us from the pains of hell, but, if we neglect them, no-one knows what horrors await us. He proceeded: And now, when
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2167d · Plato
they perform their ritual and persuade not only individuals but whole cities that expiations for sin may be made by sacrifices and amusements which fill a vacant hour and are equally at the service
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2167d · Plato
someone has transgressed and sinned. And they produce a host of books written by Musaeus and Orpheus, who were children of the Moon and the Muses — that is what they say —, according to which
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2167d · Plato
influenced by men, for he also says: The gods themselves can be swayed by prayer, And, with sacrifices and soothing promises, Incense and libations, humans turn them from their purpose When