2090d
Who's "we" when you state your belief that "we've" consented to all these rules? It's at least you... but why begrugingly state you consent when clearly it bothers you and you don't.
2090d
you haven't defined willfully submit.
2087d
Is it true that one can become enslaved to biological urges (i.e vice)?
2087d
No. Terms like slavery, coercion and repression do not mean anything without a conscious moral agent doing the enslaving or coercing. Morality requires consciousness and intent.
2087d
Heroin cannot make any meaningful choices, only I can. To say you are a slave to an inanimate object is to to declare yourself devoid of any agency and give up your claim to being human.
2087d
Such misuse of language in an attempt to excuse poor decision making is a massive insult to actual slaves and should be considered a moral/character failure like animal abuse, IMO.
2083d
2083d
2065d
Can liberty exist where people voluntarily abide by certain "lowest common denominator" rules?
2065d
It is part of liberty to be able to chose to give up your liberties or to chose someone to rule over you.
2056d
2053d
LR is Zeigeist Movement advocating for positive or negative rights?
2053d
From what I have seen mostly positive rights, a toned down version of the "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" support for technocratic governance based on scientific method.
2053d
It is possible to read about it, but there is not many concrete statements in it, https://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/about/
2053d
The main point I can see is an argument against things like planned obsolescence (from a monopoly/oligopoly) and perverse incentives, but the main claim is that problems are structural.
2053d
That mental health, income inequality, uneven distribution, almost all crime is man made because of the structures that we make, that it is not inherent to existence or nature.
2051d
yeah seems like positive rights. which require some level of slavery of others. trying to cut through the buzzwords is tough.
2048d
Liberty is the natural state of mankind. It only doesn't exist if men surrender to other men.
2047d
Ok thats nice to say (I agree liberty is the natural state) but what does surrender look like in practice?
2047d
Is cooperating with the police/courts “surrendering”? Is signing a contract to work for someone “surrendering”?
2047d
Is not actively rebelling (eg not paying taxes, bombing gov buildings) against a gov “surrendering”?
2042d
2042d
thanks for a genuinely interesting link LR. Dont agree with it but it’s somethings different.
2042d
this seems like a preemptive effort to further bury our heads in the sand & pretend there are no differences between groups of people.
2042d
Eg why do men pay more for car insurance than women (or people who identify as women https://bch.gg/bj)?
2042d
Cant have AI learning facts without the corrective SJW lens.