Triton_Kavinsky

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replied 1997d
.. like ETH. Take those out and people will find another way to do it. I don't think that by not implementing DSV you are not avoiding the issue by making the platform legal ..
replied 1997d
.. BSV or BTC or some other coin and those platforms will be equally illegal. The reason why people haven't implemented DSV in script already is because they have easier alternatives..
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.. Etherium and BCH would be illegal, sure. But the moment people realize that they cannot legally use those platforms to make contracts, they will simply implement DSV in script on ..
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.. when it comes from a state. They could say that a platform that enables such a usage (in this case by having the DSV command in its language) is illegal. If this were to happen ..
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.. It seems far-fetched to me that they would decide that a command in a programming language is illegal. This would set a very weird precedent. Of course nothing would surprise me ..
replied 1997d
Yeah I understand the difference. Someone could claim that you added it when you know that it has illegal uses. But it's literally a command in a programming language. ..
1998d · Memo Suggestions
Could you please fix the inconsistency about which part is boxed (the quote or the message) here: https://postimg.cc/qgJFrCRz and https://postimg.cc/zbtF8vtg
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Ryan has made the argument that DSV can already by implemented in script. Sure, the DSV op makes it easier but if someone wants to do illegal stuff, they can do it on SV as well.
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Ah, got it! Thanks!
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phpBB is (usually) threaded (flat) while reddit is a tree of comments. phpBB style is similar to IRC actually if we are limited to short messages like on memo.
Nikamoto
replied 1998d
I think indeed memo is constantly scanning the chain so the order should be good even with CTOR
Yeah you need to rely on something else. It's not a big issue but still
voted BCH 1998d
created poll 2004d
In the case that Memo only supports one chain, which chain do you prefer?
BCH 47 votes · 9,563 satoshis
BSV 52 votes · 15,267 satoshis

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1998d · memo
replied 1998d
I think he's just trolling. I doubt he's never seen ceramics. Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde#/media/File:Concorde_-_airframe_temperatures.svg
replied 1998d
"If there is any iron in the lander, it should have melted."
Why? Heat is at the shield. For example ceramic brick, one end +1300 C, you can hold it at the other end 5 cm away
replied 1998d
Nikamoto
.. keep track of ordering in their own database since they are the ones emitting these txs. I guess if there were also another memo instance, my messages there could be mixed up.
replied 1998d
Nikamoto
.. which tx was seen first. BTW I sent a bunch of messages, how does memo sort these messages now that with CTOR they can be in a different order? I guess they do what I say and ..
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Nikamoto
.. what can be inferred by causality and the block in which a tx shows up, then you can get that info either from TTOR blocks or from CTOR blocks and some external service recording ..
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Nikamoto
.. as they don't break causality. So all you get for sure, is causality, which can be inferred from the block anyhow even with CTOR. So if you need more ordering info other than ..
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Nikamoto
I see that you put the "exact" in quotes so I think you understand what I mean. Miners, even without CTOR, can alter the sequence of events in the block as much as they want as long ..
voted Reddit style comments (tree-like) 1998d
created poll 1998d
If Memo.cash had to support ONLY ONE way of handling discussion and drop the others, which one would you prefer?
Reddit style comments (tree-like) 10 votes · 555 satoshis
IRC style chat rooms (essentially the "Topics" that we have now but without the ability to reply to a post in a topic directly, instead you'd reply inside the topic with a new msg) 1 votes · 0 satoshis
Forum posts and replies (like phpBB but with the ability to easily add references to past posts instead of quoting text) 0 votes · 0 satoshis
Twitter posts and replies (without the "Topics" that are currently also supported) 3 votes · 0 satoshis

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created poll 1998d
If Memo.cash had to support ONLY ONE way of handling discussion and drop the others, which one would you prefer?
Reddit style comments (tree-like) 10 votes · 555 satoshis
IRC style chat rooms (essentially the "Topics" that we have now but without the ability to reply to a post in a topic directly, instead you'd reply inside the topic with a new msg) 1 votes · 0 satoshis
Forum posts and replies (like phpBB but with the ability to easily add references to past posts instead of quoting text) 0 votes · 0 satoshis
Twitter posts and replies (without the "Topics" that are currently also supported) 3 votes · 0 satoshis

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replied 1998d
Nikamoto
In other words, I would say that a "First seen" centralized database for transactions (in a block explorer for example) is as trustworthy as the ordering in TTOR.
replied 1998d
Nikamoto
Even without CTOR, nobody should depend on the order of transactions within a block for anything serious though. Miners can already alter to order as long as the keep TTOR ordering.